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Lori's avatar

I guess that we were well prepared for the bureaucracy after reading articles and posts about it, but, so far, we have not run into anything that can rival Motor Vehicles Commission in multiple states in the US. At least the people here are trying to help and, in Madeira, everyone has been kind and patient with us. Think how frustrating we are to them!

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Diane's avatar

Nancy, I share your pain, the bureaucracy is painful.

However, I would like to share a tip that WORKED FOR ME (and I say it this way because a good friend vehemently disagrees with me on this).

When trying to phone SEF from my mobile, I too was never able to get through.

But within 3 attempts using a landline, I succeeded!

For the sake of completeness, that first time I got through did not get me the desired appointment, because when I asked if they spoke English I got cut off - but it WAS late in the day.

When I called again the next business day, I also got through within 2-3 tries.

Not wanting to take any chances, this time I did not ask for an English speaker, I just battled my way through, using my limited Portuguese. But I probably would have been helped in English that morning if I had. I was given an appointment for a few weeks later.

So my advice is, if you have a landline (and if you have a fibre account, you are almost guaranteed to have a line, you might just need to find a cheap handset/ borrow one to use with it) then call their landline number from that.

But again... "YMMV".

Tip number 2: It took seven weeks after my appointment for the new card to arrive. So you will likely need to renew the temporary anyway, but this should not be a big deal at all.

This then raises the question of should you even bother trying before your permit renewal? Well, since you mentioned following rules, you should technically report any change of address within (I think) 90 days, so whether this becomes an issue when you renew is something to discuss with your consultant..

Good luck and don't give up.

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